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1. Episode 59 Kevin Maynard: People Come First

Episode 59 Kevin Maynard: People Come FirstBryan and Josh host our final Interpodsquad interview with the incomparable Kevin Maynard. We learn about Kevin’s surprising (but unsurprisingly wholesome) first foray into live performance, how his business and accounting background gave him a firm foundation as an arts leader, and Kevin’s philosophies around taking on challenges and supporting his staff. The Mystery of the Mustache is also revealed! And Danielle, per usual, continues to torture Kevin.

Nov 29,2023 50:08

2. Ep. 58 Pumpkin Pie Episode: The Lightning Rounds at MAX

Ep. 58 Pumpkin Pie Episode: The Lightning Rounds at MAXIt’s Pumpkin Pie Week! This week the “Quad” Producers are kicking back and taking it easy with family and friends and what better to release than our final episode from our time with all our friends at the Midwest Arts Expo. Thank you to everyone who sat down with us in our booth. As an added bonus, we compiled a playlist with the answers to the question, “What is your favorite Broadway song?”https://open./playlist/6XHEZzfCHTIXR6de0DKk7q?si=

Nov 22,2023 45:28

3. Ep. 57 Karra Beach: Calling the Cues

Ep. 57 Karra Beach: Calling the CuesOur hosts start out sharing the difficulties of working in the performing arts and why they have all had thoughts of leaving, and the brighter side of why they don’t and why they love what they do. Josh spends time catching up with an old friend, Karra Beach. They talk about her journey in and outside of the industry, engaging students in the performing arts, deeper engagement with their Broadway subscribers, the complexities of Broadway contracts, and more. W

Nov 15,2023 48:37

4. Ep. 56 Sara Morgulis: Accessibility Isn’t a Checklist

Ep. 56 Sara Morgulis: Accessibility Isn’t a ChecklistDanielle and Katie take time this week to talk with Sara Morgulis about theatre for young audience. Sara talks about what TYA/USA does, the organizations growth, her clear passion for accessibility in the arts, advocating for teaching artists, and so much more. Our hosts share the core tenets of their leadership philosophies and talk about the inviting role that accessibility plays in our industry.Sara Morgulis is the Executive Director at The

Nov 08,2023 54:55

5. Ep. 55 Simon Shaw: Make Friends, Don’t Be an A**hole

Ep. 55 Simon Shaw: Make Friends, Don’t Be an A**hole This week's interview is a long-time in the making as Katie and Kevin sit down with good friend of the podcast, Simon Shaw. Simon shares his journey in the arts that took him from the UK to the United States and from being a promotor to founding an agency. He also shares the new challenges of booking in the arts. Simon references research from New Victory Theatre (https://www.newvictory.org/about/research/impact-of-performing-arts-on-kids/) Ou

Nov 01,2023 44:00

6. Ep. 54 Caroline Neyman: Change is Inevitable

Ep. 54 Caroline Neyman: Change is Inevitable Our hosts remember moments their colleagues did something kind for them or made them feel special. Katie spends some time sitting down with her friend Caroline Neyman. Caroline talks about being at a performance venue from the ground up, imposter syndrome, being a parent in the arts industry, and more.Caroline Neyman is the Senior Director of Operations at Sonoma State University’s Green Music Center (https://gmc.sonoma.edu/)Follow us on social media

Oct 25,2023 57:42

7. Ep. 53: It’s an Anniversary Episode!

Ep. 53: It’s an Anniversary Episode! It’s been a full year of episodes and this week the “Quad” Producers took some time to celebrate this major milestone and look back on 52 weeks of episodes. Thanks for all of your support and we are looking forward to another year of laughter and learning.Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepodOur theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

Oct 18,2023 30:11

8. Ep. 52: Live From Our Booth at MAX Part 2

Ep. 52: Live From Our Booth at MAX Part 2We are back with the rest of booth interview from MAX! The team spent three days in the Exhibit Hall at the Midwest Arts Expo, and while we weren’t talking to agents in their booths, we were talking to people in ours! This episode features 19 interviews! Included in this episode:Robert Baird, Jackie Banks-Mahlum, Kara Bechstein, Kiersten Birondo, Reba Cafarelli, Jason Cohen, Maltz Maryann Crist, Genevieve DeMerchant, Jared Duymovic, Anne Grove, Audrey Joh

Oct 11,2023 01:21:31

9. Ep. 51: Live From Our Booth at MAX Part 1

Ep. 51: Live From Our Booth at MAX Part 1How do celebrate a successful first time exhibiting? With a jam-packed episode of mini-interviews! The team spent three days in the Exhibit Hall at the Midwest Arts Expo, and while we weren’t talking to agents in their booths, we were talking to people in ours! This episode features 21 interviews! Included in this episode:Lindsay Bauer, Martha Boehm, Jorge Casco, Lisa Conlon, Tiana Conway, Margot Day, Etienne Gara, Victor Haskins, Ally Hayes-Hamblin, Stev

Oct 04,2023 01:30:05

10. Ep. 50 Peter Palermo: Be Okay with What You Don’t Know

Ep. 50 Peter Palermo: Be Okay with What You Don’t Know This week Josh sits down with Peter Palermo at his venue The Sheldon. Peter talks about his journey to wanting to be an actor to production management to running a venue. He shares his approach to programing and the “Palermo Spice”, the unique and sometimes uncertain environment of working on a college campus, and buckling down to do the work. Our hosts talk about feeling comfortable with themselves and their position in the field, or their

Sep 27,2023 47:15

11. Ep. 49 Katie Trzaska-Miller: Creating Connections

Ep. 49 Katie Trzaska-Miller: Creating ConnectionsDanielle and Kevin continue our special series of interviewing members of our team, and this week we learn about our fellow host, Katie Miller. After a quick game of “How Pure Michigan is She?,” Katie shares her origin story starting as a dancer at a young age and eventually maintaining and managing an historic theatre on her own at the age of 23. Katie also shares her passion for her community, connecting colleagues, educating and bringing up the

Sep 20,2023 01:02:19

12. Ep. 48 Tara Bailey: Take Less Crap from People

Ep. 48 Tara Bailey: Take Less Crap from PeopleOn this episode Danielle sits down with a friend of the pod, Tara Bailey. We learn how the Grateful Dead and planning underground parties led to a career in the arts. Through Tara’s story we learn about the challenges of visas, the differences in the arts between Canada and the US, the importance of community, and so much more. Our hosts realize they don’t know much about the differences between US and Canada culturally and talk funding and theatre f

Sep 13,2023 46:14

13. Ep. 47 Bill Blagg: An Overnight Success

Ep. 47 Bill Blagg: An Overnight SuccessThis week Kevin sits down with his friend and magician, Bill Blagg. With Bill’s help, Kevin shares some of the lingo from the magic world with our fellow hosts. Bill shares his lifelong journey to where he is now, the importance of hard work, how seeing his first Broadway show changed everything, and really highlights the business of show business. Bill also shares life on the road as a husband and a father. Meanwhile, our hosts are making cat noises. Bil

Sep 06,2023 59:49

14. Ep. 46 Bryan Zellmer: Don’t Be Afraid to Show Your Silliness

Ep. 46 Bryan Zellmer: Don’t Be Afraid to Show Your SillinessIn this episode we continue our special series of interviewing members of our team, and this week Katie and Josh sit down with Bryan. Bryan shares his journey from marketing director to arts admin, how his programming style has shifted as our ecosystem changes, the pitfalls of “quality” art, and his passion for collaboration in every aspect of his life. He also shows off his natural storytelling skills sharing vulnerable, heartwarming,

Aug 30,2023 54:04

15. Ep. 45 How We Conference!

Ep. 45 How We Conference! We are fast approaching conference season, and in the episode our hosts talk about their approach to conferencing. Choosing your conference, what to do before you attend, while you are there, and even following up. They even cover some tips on what to pack so you are prepared!You can find highlights, advice, and links in a PDF on our website: https://nobusinesslike.com/Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinessl

Aug 23,2023 40:44

16. Ep. 44 Ron DeStefano: Too Crazy to Make Up

Ep. 44 Ron DeStefano: Too Crazy to Make UpJosh and Danielle sit down with the ever engaging, Ron Destefano. Ron shares his journey in the industry starting with degrees in Music and Chemistry to performing full-time, to starting a management company. We even learn about his connection with Ariana Grande! Our hosts also discuss how important self-awareness, humility, authenticity, and passion are as we move through our careers in our industry.Ron Destafano is the Producing Director of EPIC Arts M

Aug 16,2023 54:00

17. Ep. 43 Danielle Van Hook: Comforting, Yet Challenging

Ep. 43 Danielle Van Hook: Comforting, Yet ChallengingIn this episode we continue our special series of interviewing members of our team, this week Bryan and Katie sit down with Danielle, and finally put her in the hot seat! We learn about the journey that led her to arts administration, where her passion for DEIA comes from and why it’s important to her, how she programs entertainment and keeps it accessible, and so much more. Danielle also shares her love of the Pocahontas Project (https://www.

Aug 09,2023 53:58

18. Ep. 42 Mason Moss: Be Undeniable

Ep. 42 Mason Moss: Be UndeniableIn this episode our hosts learn some new (and old) theatre terms in what was definitely not a game and Kevin sits down with Mason Moss. Mason talks about how he got started touring with the Book of Mormon, getting to conduct on Broadway, and gives some incredible advice to those just getting started. Mason Moss (@bluesinmossflat) is the Music Director for the Book of Mormon National Tour (https://thebookofmormontour.com/)Follow us on social media and let us know

Aug 02,2023 49:52

19. Ep. 41 Jeremy Davis and Clay Johnson: Visionaries and Integrators

Ep. 41 Jeremy Davis and Clay Johnson: Visionaries and IntegratorsIn this episode our hosts discuss pivotal moments that that led to their careers. Josh and Bryan sit down with Jeremy Davis and Clay Johnson of The Fabulous Equinox Orchestra. They discuss their beginning in music and how that developed into being lifelong best friends. Jeremy talks about the process of jumping off the cliff into music full time. We also dive into the concepts from rocketfuel and how important it is to have compli

Jul 26,2023 53:04

20. Ep. 40 Josh Benson: Making Time

Ep. 40 Josh Benson: Making TimeIn this episode we do something a little different and interview one of our own! Join Danielle and Kevin as they sit down with fellow host, Josh Benson. Josh answers the hard-hitting questions like which one of the seven dwarves he identifies most with and what prank he wants to pull on his fellow host. Eventually, Josh shares the journey from theatre to autobody work and back to theatre, his change in leadership style, the impressive arts driven growth in Marion,

Jul 19,2023 51:18

21. Ep. 39 Andre Bouchard: Erasing Invisibility of Indigenous People

Ep. 39 Andre Bouchard: Erasing Invisibility of Indigenous PeopleIn this episode our hosts explore what their own states do or do not have in place from a systemic standpoint for the acknowledgement of Indigenous People that were native to those lands. Danielle sits down for a conversation with Andre Bouchard. Through this conversation we gain insight into not just the importance of land acknowledgements, but why the intent behind them is of much more importance. We learn about how Andre Crafted

Jul 12,2023 48:23

22. Ep. 38 Chris Fontakis: Be Free to Fail

Ep. 38 Chris Fontakis: Be Free to FailIn this episode our hosts discuss their favorite sketch comedy personalities, and Bryan sits down with Chris Fontakis; the founder of Serious Comedy Theater. Chris dives into his history with Upright Citizens Brigade , IO West, and The Groundlings. He also discusses starting his own company and what it meant to start it in a small town like Beacon, New York.Chris Fontakis is the founder of www.seriouscomedytheatre.com Follow us on social media and let us kno

Jul 05,2023 44:54

23. Ep. 37 Neil Murray: Be a Listener

Ep. 37 Neil Murray: Be a ListenerIn this episode our hosts talk about their favorite concerts, and Josh sits down with an absolute legend, Neil Murray. Neil shares his unlikely path into the theatrical arts, his role as a member of the founding team of the National Theatre of Scotland (https://www.nationaltheatrescotland.com/), his time as Executive Director of the Abbey Theatre – The National Theatre of Ireland (https://www.abbeytheatre.ie/), and so much more. Neil’s conversation leads the host

Jun 28,2023 51:25

24. Ep. 36 Karoline Myers: Because it is Wonderful

Ep. 36 Karoline Myers: Because it is WonderfulThis week's episode has our hosts talking about great pieces of family and educational theatre, and Katie sits down with Karoline Myers. Karoline shares her journey in the field, the transition from managing a program to managing a team, and the importance of educational programing. She also reminds us of the power of relationships and networking.Karoline Myers is the Director of Education at the Des Moines Performing Arts (https://desmoinesperformin

Jun 21,2023 01:01:33

25. Ep. 35 Jacob Deaton: Work Hard and Be Patient

Ep. 35 Jacob Deaton: Work Hard and Be PatientIn this episode we learn about the Quadproducers chores or jobs as a child that they felt instilled a work ethic in them. Meanwhile, Josh sits down with Jacob Deaton and learns how he took advantage of his Sunday service time to learn more about music, how that led to his development of skills as a guitar player. We also learn how his secret drumset in high school turned into him being an accomplished guitar player. Jacob Deaton is the Owner of http

Jun 14,2023 40:21

26. Ep. 34 Leah Keith: Ask More Questions

Ep. 34 Leah Keith: Ask More Questions Bryan sits down with Leah Keith co founder, Creative Producer, and agent for Rhythm of The Arts Producing Agency. We learn of her background as a Flamenco Dancer and on into her roles as an agent and eventually starting a new agency. Bryan and Leah dive into the corporate and organizational structure of some large corporate agencies. Leah closes the interview with some fantastic advice for anyone getting into the industry or in leadership at all. Also, ou

Jun 07,2023 43:41

27. Ep. 33 Adia Morris Swanger: Show Up in Places Where People Don’t Expect You

Ep. 33 Adia Morris Swanger: Show Up in Places Where People Don’t Expect YouAdia Morris Swanger sits down with Kevin to talk about the business skills needed in the arts and what Springboard for the Arts is doing to help provide those skills. Adia also shares the journey that led her to having a multi-faceted career in the arts and how she manages it all. Our hosts share their onstage mishaps and talk about life with kids while working in the arts. Adia Morris Swanger is the Program Manager, Prof

May 31,2023 52:46

28. Ep. 32 Bob Bennett: Quality Takes Time

Ep. 32 Bob Bennett: Quality Takes Time Bob Bennett, and his impressive beard, join Josh for a conversation about Jazz, Jazz St. Louis, and all of the options of being part of the industry outside of performance. Bob talks about how change and growth takes time, vision, and a good team. Our hosts share their spirit/drink of choice, so now you know what to get us when you see us at “the hang” at conferences! The team also discuss more important topics like the economics of the arts and the many op

May 24,2023 47:12

29. Ep. 31 Meena Malik: Don’t Be Afraid to Speak Up

Ep. 31 Meena Malik: Don’t Be Afraid to Speak Up Katie sits down with Meena Malik to discuss genuine relationship building outside of programming, focusing on the importance of the relationship between arts funders and those they fund or want to fund, the importance of building a relationship when inviting someone to have meaningful and potentially traumatic conversations, and more. Our hosts talk about impactful moments in arts education, and some resources for tough conversations in the EDI spa

May 17,2023 01:02:12

30. Ep. 30 Anthony Wilkinson: You Have to Love What You Do

Ep. 30 Anthony Wilkinson: You Have to Love What You DoBryan chats with Anthony Wilkinson about his many paths into and around the performing arts. They talk about his hit show My Big Gay Italian Wedding, his start as a writer in soap operas, his public speaking, and his eventual journey to leading the Avenel Performing Arts Center. Our hosts discuss surprising audience successes, soap operas, and the need for open conversations around burnout and getting to proper staffing levels.Anthony Wilkins

May 10,2023 53:33

31. Ep. 29 Tracey Lawie: an a-ha moment; a defining moment

Ep. 29 Tracey Lawie: an a-ha moment; a defining momentToday we hear about our "Quadproducers" first Broadway experiences. Then, Josh talks with Tracey Lawie about Booking Broadway, and the importance of representation in the arts. She discusses the rewarding parts of an art admin position, and how they are based in transformations.Tracey Lawie is the Director of the Miller Auditorium (https://www.millerauditorium.com/).Americans for the Arts- Arts and Economic Prosperity - Americans For The Art

May 03,2023 58:13

32. Ep. 28 Jonathan Burns: Making It More Ridiculous

Ep. 28 Jonathan Burns: Making It More RidiculousEpisode 28 starts with our Quadhosts chatting about the weather and then into talking about the presence of our families in our spaces. Then Bryan sits down with comedic magician Jonathan Burns as they chat about how he got into magic, how some of his funniest bits came about, and his post pandemic view on family and work-life balance. Information about Jonathan Burns, as well as his tour schedule can be found at www.iheartburns.com Follow us on s

Apr 26,2023 55:00

33. Ep. 27 Dan Mann: Career by Accident

Ep. 27 Dan Mann: Career by AccidentIn this episode, the pod squad debates their preferred handheld chicken preferences and Josh has an engaging interview with Dan Mann! Dan shares his journey to becoming an agent, starting a label and publishing company, and now producing a TV Show. Dan Mann is the Owner/Agent at Agency Etc (www.agency-etc.com) in Nashville. Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod

Apr 19,2023 51:26

34. Ep. 26 Mark Wilson: Take Those Risks

Ep. 26 Mark Wilson: Take Those RisksThis week, our hosts take a moment to reflect on teachers who had an impact on their lives. Brian sits down with the energetic, fountain of knowledge, Mark Wilson. They touch on a number of topics, including a masterclass on connecting with your entire community.Mark Wilson is the Executive Director of the Zoellner Arts Center at Lehigh University (https://zoellner.cas.lehigh.edu/home).Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - htt

Apr 12,2023 01:01:44

35. Ep. 25 Natalie Marrero: Ancestral Keys

Ep. 25 Natalie Marrero: Ancestral Keys On this week's episode, our hosts talk about the impact and their love of people who are passionate about what they do. Josh and Danielle sit down with one of these individuals, Natalie Marerro. Natalie talks about becoming an Executive Director at 23, the impact of Viver Brasil, and the importance of “Ancestral Keys.“Natalie Marrero is the Executive Director of Viver Brasil (https://www.viverbrasil.com/). She is passionate about place-making for communitie

Apr 05,2023 50:58

36. Ep. 24 Jerry and Adrienne Crane-Ross: Get to Know Your Marketplace

Ep. 24 Jerry and Adrienne Crane-Ross: Get to Know Your Marketplace In episode 24, our hosts recall adjacent experience that loosely correlated to their current careers, and Josh and Kevin sit down to talk business with Jerry Ross and Adrienne Crane-Ross. Jerry discusses his path to the industry through being in a band and managing a rehearsal studio while Adrienne recalls her path into the industry through being a sound engineer and then a multiple Emmy Award winning PBS Children’s producer. Bo

Mar 29,2023 41:46

37. Ep. 23 Emerging Arts Leaders Symposium: The Future is Bright!

Ep. 23 EALS: The Future is Bright! We are joined by the student leaders of the Emerging Arts Leaders Symposium (EALS), Morgan Fuller, Faith Smith, and Lisette DuFore. Katie jumped at the opportunity to chat with the future leaders in our industry to hear what is important to them as they enter the field. Our hosts share what they thought they would be doing when they were still in college, and share stories of the big actions they are taking in their organizations.American University (https://w

Mar 22,2023 56:27

38. Ep. 22 Dominic Moore-Dunson: Defining Success

Ep. 22 Dominic Moore-Dunson: Defining Success On this episode, our hosts talk about safety leading into Danielle’s engaging conversation with Dominic Moore-Dunson. Dominic shares his creative process, including his perspective on how an audience perceives his projects after creation, and how becoming a parent changed the way he was making art. Dominic and Danielle also discuss the act of “trauma mining” in the arts and specifically funding of minority art works. As a note, Dominic mentions a sto

Mar 15,2023 50:46

39. Ep. 21 Stephen Sunderlin: Theatre is an Apprenticeship

Ep. 21 Stephen Sunderlin: Theatre is an ApprenticeshipOn this episode, our hosts recall thing that drew them into booths at conferences, and Bryan sits down to talk business with Stephen Sunderlin. Stephen shares his story of moving to NYC and eventually becoming the Artistic Director at Vital Theatre Company. Stephen shares the benefits of connections, the details of producing new works, the importance of good marketing materials, and the value of being open to working every experience in theat

Mar 08,2023 42:01

40. Ep. 20 Michael Mushalla: Be Curious. Don’t Be Afraid.

Ep. 20 Michael Mushalla: Be Curious. Don’t Be Afraid. This week's episode is another special one! It highlights Michael Mushalla who introduced our hosts, and helped us all think differently about what comes next. Michael Mushalla is the Owner and Founder of Double M Arts & Events, LLC (https://double-m-arts.com/), as well as a wine consultant. Michael Mushalla along with Christine Cox created “The Summit” that brought the hosts of “There’s No Business Like...” together. Follow us on social me

Mar 01,2023 35:17

41. Ep. 19 Christine Cox: Keep Dreaming Big

Ep. 19 Christine Cox: Keep Dreaming Big This week's episode is a special one! It is the first of two that highlights the individuals that introduced our hosts. Our hosts talk about getting that phone call, and then Bryan, Danielle, and Kevin share their conversation with Christine Cox. Christine shares her journey from playing a Princess to owning her own agency and gives incredible insight on the risk vs. Reward of artist acquisitions and contract types.Christine Cox is the Owner and Founder o

Feb 22,2023 40:18

42. Ep. 18 Christi Dortch: It’s About What We’re Building

Ep. 18 Christi Dortch: It’s About What We’re BuildingOur hosts talk about their favorite experience on stage. Katie chats with Christi Dortch about her career journey, when to listen to what your community is ready for and when to push them. Katie and Christi also discuss the relearning of in person communication coming out of the pandemic zoom meeting norm. The interview covers 3 things that you can use to shape your strategic plan and Christi discusses the function of state consortiums.Christ

Feb 15,2023 44:17

43. Ep. 17 Marian Liebowitz: What Puts Fire in Your Belly?

Ep. 17 Marian Liebowitz: What Puts Fire in Your Belly? Our hosts talk about the instruments they played when they were younger, and the importance of arts education. Bryan takes an opportunity to chat with Marian Liebowitz about her teaching background and the importance of the business side of our industry, as well as her unique approach to curating artists.Marian Liebowitz is the owner of Marian Liebowitz Artist Management (https://www.marianliebowitz.com/) as well as a former performer and pr

Feb 08,2023 38:04

44. Ep. 16 Josh Holliday: Creative Instinct and Arts Marketing

Ep. 16 Josh Holliday: Creative Instinct and Arts Marketing Josh Holliday joins our host, Katie, to demystify Arts Marketing by giving real examples of how to create a marketing plan, how PR differs from marketing, and more. Our hosts talk about their favorite marketing campaigns, and revel in the masterclass that Josh Holliday presented in this short interview. Josh Holliday has a career in Arts Marketing, founded Fresh Coast Perspective (https://www.freshcoastperspective.com/), and is currentl

Feb 01,2023 48:21

45. Ep. 15 Ken Waldman: Alaska’s Fiddling Poet

On this episode, Bryan sits down with Alaska’s Fiddling Poet, Ken Waldman. Bryan and Ken talk about Ken’s life on the road, his time as an educator, how he approaches his work including conferences, and even gives us a snippet of his work. Our hosts talk about trying to explain what it is they actually do, and explore the genuine approach that Ken takes to relationship building in the indusrty.Ken Waldman is a musician, author, poet, and founder of Nomadic Productions (https://kenwaldman.com/)

Jan 25,2023 43:53

46. Ep. 14 Larry Kosson: Give Each Other the Time

Ep. 14 Larry Kosson: Give Each Other the Time Our hosts reflect on their first mentors and the impact they had. Josh found some time at International Entertainment Buyers Association (IEBA -https://www.ieba.org/) Conference to sit down with Larry Kosson. Larry shares his origin story, and talks about his true passion, mentorship. Larry was awarded the 2019 Mentorship Award from the Western Arts Alliance (WAA - https://www.westarts.org/) .Larry Kosson is the Founder and President of Kosson Talent

Jan 18,2023 55:09

47. Ep. 13 Krista Bradley: Discomfort Breeds Growth

Ep. 13 Krista Bradley: Discomfort Breeds GrowthWe kick off this week with stories from past APAP (Association of Performing Arts Professionals) Conference before Katie dives into a conversation with Krista Bradley. Krista shares the journey that landed her at APAP, why cultural humility is important, and why you should listen to your impulses.Krista Bradley is the Director, Programs and Resources at APAP (https://apap365.org/).Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions

Jan 11,2023 56:50

48. Ep. 12 Pat Hazell: Capturing Creativity: Seinfeld to Wonder Bread

Ep. 12 Pat Hazell: Capturing Creativity: Seinfeld to Wonder Bread Our hosts talk about tech riders, before an engaging conversation with this week's incredible guest, Pat Hazell. Pat shares his insights on storytelling, “renting seats,” contracts, and shares his journey and only begins touching on his career. Pat Hazell is a writer, producer, director, podcaster, comedian, and more. He is the founder and Chief Creative Officer of Sweetwood Creative (http://sweetwoodiscreative.com/) and the host

Jan 04,2023 55:40

49. Ep. 11 It’s a Holiday Party!

Ep. 11 It’s a Holiday Party!Our hosts take a week off from interviewing to have a little holiday fun. Katie’s son, Leo, makes an appearance to spread some holiday cheer, we all play some games, and we share what we plan to work on in the new year. Want to give us a present this year? Thank you to all of you who gave us a listen in 2022 and helped get this podcast off the ground.Leave us a review!Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinessl

Dec 28,2022 22:04

50. Ep. 10 Jennifer Morris & Laurel Canan: Becoming Tour Ready

Ep. 10 Jennifer Morris & Laurel Canan: Becoming Tour ReadyJennifer Morris and Laurel Canan didn’t start out in the arts, like most they discovered their path along the way. Bryan and Josh sit down with them to talk about artist management, being tour ready, and what led them to the industry they love. Our host chime in with their translatable skills from their jobs before the arts, and on the importance of good marketing materials.Jennifer Morris and Laurel Canan are with Seigel Artist Managemen

Dec 21,2022 42:04

51. Ep. 9 Xavier Verna: Discovering Shared Values

Ep. 9 Xavier Verna: Discovering Shared ValuesThis week our hosts talk about their love of historic venues and Katie sits down with Xavier Verna. Xavier and Katie talk about managing historic theatres, working in small communities, how to make purposeful partnerships, and the important role that EDI plays in managing an arts organization. Xavier Verna is the Executive Director of the Ramsdell Regional Center for the Arts (https://ramsdelltheatre.org/) in Manistee, Michigan. Links to resources me

Dec 14,2022 55:25

52. Ep. 8 David Wannen: Just Show Up

Ep. 8 David Wannen: Just Show Up Our hosts talk about getting over nerves, imposter syndrome, and the importance of being tightly routed. Our guest, David Wannen, shares how he got over his nerves, how his organization builds a route, and some practical approaches to conferences, including the importance of “the hang”. David Wannen is the Executive Director and a performer with the New York Gilbert & Sullivan Players (https://nygasp.org/). David is also a past president of NAPAMA and an avid a

Dec 07,2022 40:49

53. Ep. 7 Sarah McCarthy: Trust Your Intuition

Ep. 7 Sarah McCarthy: Trust Your Intuition On this episode, Katie sits down with Sarah McCarthy to talk about theatre for young audiences, new projects, and juggling life with a full workload. Our hosts reminisce about their questionable music choices as young children and acknowledge that you can love your job and still need time for yourself.Sarah McCarthy is the Agency Owner and Creative Producer at Dandelion Artists (https://www.dandelionartists.com/) representing the best in family music wi

Nov 30,2022 45:11

54. Ep. 5 Max Darwin: Magic and Mental Health

Ep. 5 Max Darwin: Magic and Mental Health We talk about our origin stories on this episode, and Katie has a heartfelt conversation with our friend, Max Darwin, about creating a magic show, hard work, empathy, and mental health.Max Darwin is an actor, public speaker, and magician who might be best known by his stage persona, The Amazing Max (http://theamazingmaxlive.com/).Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod

Nov 16,2022 50:05

55. Ep. 4 Tommy Hensel: Be Kind to Yourself

Ep. 4 Tommy Hensel: Be Kind to Yourself Everyone is busy! We learn a little more about what our hosts do outside of their day jobs. Check out #marionmurals on Instagram and visit https://www.pocahontasproject.org/. Kevin chats with Tommy Hensel about a new booking conference, Midwest Arts Xpo (MAX), challenges facing the industry, selfcare and more.Tommy Hensel is the Senior Director of Performing Arts at Elgin Community College (https://eccartscenter.org/) and Board President of Heartland Per

Nov 09,2022 36:46

56. Ep. 3 Lisa B. Lewis: Bridging the Gap in Accessibility

Ep. 3 Lisa B. Lewis: Bridging the Gap in Accessibility Our hosts learn all about the circus on today’s episode when Bryan talks with Lisa B. Lewis. Lisa is a longtime circus performer and advocate for accessibility in the arts. While the episode focuses on accessibility in the circus arts, Lisa gives examples and tactics that can be used in all forms of performing and touring arts.Lisa B. Lewis is the Founder and Executive Director of Omnium Circus (https://omniumcircus.org/), and Agent at Harmo

Nov 02,2022 36:21

57. Ep. 2 Mister MOJO: Be Open and Unafraid

On this episode our hosts talk superpowers and Josh and Kevin sit down with Mister MOJO and talk about lessons learned and mentoring. Learn how two interactions with famous people shaped his view on working in the industry. Mister MOJO is the founder and front man for MOJO and the Bayou Gypsies (https://redhotmojo.com/) with a lifetime of experience engaging audiences and getting them on their feet.Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusi

Oct 26,2022 40:33

58. Ep. 1 Gail Boyd: Follow Your Bliss

There's No Business Like... Ep. 1 Gail Boyd: Follow Your Bliss It’s finally here, our first episode! On this episode we learn which of our hosts are rule-followers and who are willing to bend the rules, and Bryan interviews Gail Boyd. Gail Boyd is President of Gail Boyd Artist Management (https://gailboyd.com/), Co-founder of arts consulting company Vanguard Arts (https://vanguard-arts.com/), and more. Learn how one concert changed her life and how she went from lawyer to artist manager.Follow u

Oct 19,2022 37:16

59. There’s No Business Like - Trust and Transparency - a podcast preview

A chance to get to know our "Quad" Producers (Josh, Danielle, Katie, Bryan, and Kevin) with some self introductions a short exploration of our goals with "There's No Business Like...".

Oct 12,2022 12:28

60. There’s No Business Like.. A Trailer

THERE’S NO BUSINESS LIKE... The podcast that explores topics and talks with leaders of the professional theatrical touring industry! The ”Quad” Producers (Josh, Danielle, Katie, Bryan, and Kevin) discuss a range of arts related topics and share an interview with a different industry leader each week.

Oct 02,2022 03:22

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